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well my next guest Blazer path and investing in disruptive innovation it became a household name in a Wall Street Titan along the way but like the Broadway hit musical a Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum there have been a few bumps in a road joining me now Arc investment invest CEO and CIO Kathy Wood Kathy is so great seeing you uh I got to start with this new launch yeah absolutely it's this new launch you got the digital asset ETFs explain to us what what they are yes this this is a suite of actively managed uh Futures products uh We've uh We've we're providing we believe the broadest Suite of these offerings in the market today uh I think we're getting close to SEC approval of a spot Bitcoin ETF so uh we know institutions are looking for exposure and we think these will hit the mark and so we're talking about actively managed Bitcoin Futures actively managed either Futures actively managed combination of of the two actively manag Bitcoin and cash and then finally actively managed Bitcoin uh along with equities with uh crypto exposure you know you know this does mean of course you're going to have to get like a 24-hour team right they're going to working shift since Bitcoin trades overnight you know my greatest Fe my greatest favorite cryptocurrencies I'm going to buy one of these cryptos for one one millionth of a penny and I'm going to go to sleep it's going to go to two bucks and by the time I wake up is 1 one millionth of a penny you ready to work 24 a day oh we're already doing it we uh we use onchain analytics and we're checking them at night and uh in the morning you know so pretty much around the clock someone's checking them I know I read what you said that Bitcoin is going to go to $1.48 Million by 2030 you still with that Target Yes actually our conviction is increased this year because uh we're seeing that Bitcoin is not just risk on any anymore it's also risk off it's a flight to Quality a flight to safety and we saw that during the Regional Bank crisis the bank stocks Regional Bank index imploded Banks went bankrupt and Bitcoin went up 50% 19,000 to nearly 30,000 that's a flight to safety why no counterparty risk like there is in Banks completely transparent completely decentralized so uh much much more safety there uh from a counterpart risk point of view Kathy I I've seen recently you've been sort of taking shots at so-called quantitative research sort of the old school old way of doing things which is by the way probably why so many of the most brilliant folks on Wall Street have missed the tech rally what's your issue with it what's should the viewer at home be worried about well what we're really focused is you know the best allocation of capital and because of the tech and Telecom bust in the early 2000s and then again 809 the Meltdown there there's been extreme risk aversion in the markets and uh so you've got portfolio managers and analysts hugging their benchmarks they are measured against their benchmarks so they're just hugging them well guess what those benchmarks those big ones especially don't include the real innovators in our portfolio which is a positive for us we're a great diversifier for those strategies we're a great hedge against the value traps that we think are evolving in those broader-based strategies because if we're right and there are five major platforms robotics energy storage artificial intelligence blockchain technology and multiomic sequencing all evolving at the same time there's going to be a lot of disruptive innovation and massive growth opportunities but there's also going to be a lot of what what is called uh Kay Christensen creative destruction companies and you can look at the auto sector look at the auto sector consumer preference shift towards electric we think will continue uh to move forward um in fits and starts of course but we think the the the trend is clear and that's going to be a real problem for the traditional auto manufacturers that uh are not scaling into electric right so traditional business and traditional Wall Street when I was growing up in my neighborhood we had a saying scared money don't make money anyway Kathy you've never been afraid and we appreciate you coming on the show today talk again real soon thank you see you all right folks we'll be right back
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