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Ives는 테슬라 장기 적정가치 2조달러와 자율주행(로보택시) 지배력을 강조하며 이사회 개입을 촉구했다. 팔란티어는 2~3년 내 시총 1조달러 도달을 전망하며 목표가 160달러를 유지했다. 엔비디아는 시총 5조달러 도달 가능성을 언급했고, 메타·스노우플레이크·크라우드스트라이크 등 소프트웨어/AI 기업에 낙관적이다. 나스닥 22,000→25,000 도달과 3년 기술주 강세장을 주장했다. 크라우드스트라이크는 575~600달러까지 거론했고, 하반기 강세장을 예상했다.
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We welcome Dan Ives , Global Head of Technology at Wedbush Securities. Nice to see you again, Dan. There is something to talk about here. Let's start with Tesla. The company's stock has been volatile, but it remains a key technology name for many investors, and you've been very vocal, the loudest "bull " on the street, and you've made several recommendations to the Tesla board of directors about the next steps that the board should take as a company.
Tell us about your thoughts behind these recommendations. Does this change your long-term outlook for the stock? Yes, I mean, first of all , it doesn't change our long-term outlook. I mean, we didn't change our price target. We continue to believe that $2 trillion is Tesla's actual valuation, and a trillion of that is actually autonomous.
But, in my opinion, the board of directors cannot sleep without doing something. First, give Musk his new pay package. 25% of voting shares. I think this ultimately paves the way for XAI in the future. But oversight of some restrictions on time spent at Tesla, and that goes for political adventures, right?
I mean, it continues to be with the third party, and obviously it started with Trump and Dodge. I mean, it was overstock and Musk should be in Tesla. This continues to be their greatest asset. Would you change your goal if the board of directors did not follow your recommendations? Listen, I think the board of directors and Musk, I think they'll find some common ground.
Whether it's stimulating it in other ways to make sure it achieves these, I think, very, very ambitious but achievable goals when it comes to AI. And but, but listen, this is a situation where the clock strikes midnight. I mean, the board of directors needs to take control of the situation , because Elon is Tesla, Tesla is Musk, and that's the reality.
Okay, the peak was when it went from 182 last year in August or so , to 488 today. This is at level 311, and your goal is 500. An update on the rollout of robo-taxi when you might see it expand to other regions of the country. Yeah, and Nicole, I think that's part of this show too. For example, if it were Intel, I mean, it's, you know, a doze.
You don't care, do you? The fact that when it comes to Tesla, you have the biggest chapter of revolutionary technology development ahead of you, and I would say that if it's not Nvidia, I would say there's no other company that has more ahead of it, and it all starts with robo- taxis. Our team was there in Austin, very impressed with the ride, safety, maneuverability.
This geofence area is expanding. I think they'll be in San Francisco probably in the next month or two. I think in a year it will be 25-30 cities and it will... Look, Uber will play its role. Waymo will play a key role, but I believe the autonomous vehicle market will be owned and dominated by Tesla.
Let's switch to Palantir. You released a new article on the stock of an artificial intelligence company, raising the target price from 140 to 160. You maintained an outperform rating . You were a fan of these stocks, a raging bull about these stocks. Today they are at 143. What is behind this forecast?
I believe this will be a trillion dollar market within the next two to three years. I mean, you've been saying things like, " Remember, they hate these stocks at 10, they despise them at 40, they shout them from the mountaintops at 80." And no, no, go ahead... Look, bears, when they're in hibernation mode, don't see artificial intelligence in spreadsheets .
I believe that Palantir, you are on par with Nvidia and Microsoft, in terms of leadership in the artificial intelligence revolution. And that's why they're the Messi of AI, and I think Karp understands where the market is going as well as any CEO, I think, in the world. And at this point, Palantir, I mean, we've seen the stock go up 422% in 1 year.
Do you have a bullish scenario for Palantir where it can really grow? I mean, that's two ahead, right? I think this is a bullish scenario. I mean, you know, stocks over $200, but I think, as I've talked about, in the next two or three, I think the market cap will hit a trillion dollars. I mean, I think this is the golden age for AI.
This is obviously the $4 trillion market cap club on video, and behind those velvet ropes, I think they're going to let Microsoft in very soon. Palantir, I think they're going to get into that trillion dollar market cap club in the next few years. And, look, the haters will hate Palantir, as they always do.
But you know, we're talking about one of the best generational growth companies we've ever seen. Turning to Nvidia, and a lot of what you talked about, and it happened, and we saw Nvidia become the first company this week to hit a $4 trillion valuation. Maybe it was last week. Hmm, I can't, all my days are merging together.
But we watched it, and it was fascinating, and today it's at a record high again. So we saw Nvidia become the first company to reach a $4 trillion valuation. Can anything stop this artificial intelligence giant? What are your goals for this? I mean, top managers should get a $5 trillion hat. Because eventually you'll see it for Nvidia.
And I ultimately believe you'll see this for Microsoft. Like Nicole, for me there is only one chip in the world that is fueling the artificial intelligence revolution. This is the godfather of AI, Nvidia's Jensen. The Street is still underestimating where growth can go . And I think we're still at the beginning of how this all unfolds.
And what other names or what are you specifically observing for a breakthrough in the field of artificial intelligence? I mean, I think it's...and we were talking about Ives AI 30, right? It's about software, it's about snowflakes, it's about traders, you know, what I consider " data dogs." You know, I'm looking at CrowdStrike, Zscaler , CyberArk from the cybersecurity side.
And I think Meta is one of those that continues to dominate more and more in what could become a consumer AI revolution . Zuckerberg is on the warpath. And I think these are stocks that could be in the four figures. Yes, let's talk more about Meta. Um, can you go into that a little deeper? It was very clear that he was creating, uh, you know, a superintelligence artificial intelligence intelligence team.
We heard that he made offers for big money. Can you tell me more about this ? I mean, the consumer AI revolution has just begun. This is actually one of the criticisms when it comes to Cook and Apple. Zuckerberg admitted that they may be lagging behind, but if you look at what Meta is doing, it is revolutionizing the advertising platform.
I think this will lead to further monetization of the over 3 billion users they have. And you can argue as much as you like that the corporate artificial intelligence revolution happened because of Nvidia. Meta will play a big role in the consumer AI revolution. I believe Apple is doing this as well, as is Alphabet.
But this is what awaits us. So, a name like Snowflake that you mentioned in your software recommendations, you had Snowflake, MongoDB, and Data Dog. Snowflake recently reached a high of 226. This is not an all-time high, but it is certainly rising. Where do you think Snowflake could go ? We think that from now on, a growth of 30-40% is possible.
This is our opinion. Because, as it turns out, only 4% of businesses in the US have even gone the artificial intelligence route. None in Europe, none in Asia ( except China). Now look at what happened in the Middle East. Look at sovereign government bonds. This is all just getting started, so I believe we'll be looking at 22,000 Nasdaq, then we'll be talking about 25,000 and so on, right?
And I think a 3-year tech bull market is ahead . And then for CrowdStrike, despite some big crashes and big sell-offs, it certainly recovered from that. Where do you think CrowdStrike could go ? It is at 482 , the maximum was 517 and will change. What are the prospects here and how quickly will we get back to 500?
I think this is the F1 of cybersecurity, right ? I mean, it could be 575, I was told, 600 shares . And that's the gold standard of cybersecurity in terms of everything George and his team have done at CrowdStrike. And that's why we continue to be so optimistic about CrowdStrike. Of course, along with Zscaler, Palo Alto and others.
Yes, and I mentioned time. I mean, there is an optimistic mood, and you don't have a crystal ball, but to get to 500 even from 482, how quickly can it happen? Oh, it can happen very quickly. I mean, I think the quarter is going extremely well. You know, you have a month left in the quarter, and it seems like it's really easy.
You'll see ratings decline in a lot of the others, you know, kind of shots over the edge, but it creates opportunities for a lot of these names. And that's why we are so optimistic . Dan Ives, any final quick thoughts? I would just say, grab some popcorn, have some rosé wine this weekend. Bull market in the second half of the year.
Dan Ives, Global Head of Technology at Wedbush Securities. Always glad to see you. Thank you very much, Dan. Nice to see you.
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