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뉴욕 시장 Mamdani의 두 번째 주택 과세(연 500만달러 이상 비거주 고가주택 대상, 최소 5억달러 세수 목표)를 비판하는 영상. Ken Griffin이 뉴욕 350 Park Ave 개발(약 60억달러 투자, 건설 6천 일자리·영구 일자리 1만5천 개) 재검토를 시사했다는 보도를 근거로, 고율 과세가 투자와 고용을 몰아내고 부유층 이탈을 부른다고 주장. 플로리다의 재산세 인센티브 정책과 대비하며 사회주의 정책을 강하게 비판. 과거 Bloomberg 시절 키오스크 도입으로 일자리가 줄었다는 사례도 언급.
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to the story here. So, this is a very interesting story of how bad policies pushes good people away from your city. Rob, do you have the clip of Mondani saying what he's going to be doing to Ken Griffin's house and then Ken Griffin responds back. Now, he responds back at Mondani. If the audience if you haven't seen this, this clip is this guy says we are no longer going to let billionaires having penthouses here that they no longer live in and here's what we're going to do.
We're going to tax the rich on second properties that they have and then Ken Griffin responds back in a very simple way. Hey, no problem. You think that's a lot of money for me? Watch what I'm pulling away from New York. But first, watch the socialist communist islamist Mondani, mayor of New York City, giving his pitch on taxing the rich.
Go ahead, Rob. When I ran for mayor, I said I was going to tax the rich. Well, today we're taxing the rich. I'm thrilled to announce we secured a pied-a-terre tax, the first in New York's history. This is an annual fee on luxury properties worth more than $5 million whose owners do not live full-time in the city.
Like for this penthouse, which hedge fund CEO Ken Griffin bought for $238 million. This pied-a-terre tax is specifically designed for the richest of the rich, those who store their wealth in New York City real estate but who don't actually live here. But even so, they're able to reap the huge financial rewards of owning property and dare I say the greatest city in the world.
And most of the time, these units are sitting empty since again, they don't actually live here. This is a fundamentally unfair system that hurts working New Yorkers. Now, it's coming to an end. This tax will raise at least $500 million directly for the city. It'll help fund things like free child care, cleaner streets, safer neighborhoods.
As mayor, I believe everyone has a role to play in contributing to our city. And some a little bit more than others. Okay. So, you can pause right pause that right there. Okay, so that is Mr. Tax Guy who wants to come and tax you. Ken Griffin, who left Chicago. I believe he left Illinois if I'm not mistaken.
Chicago. Very wealthy guy, you know. Moved to Florida. Moved to Florida, is building a big place, big property in Miami. Yes, and I think he's even got something in Palm Beach. Yes. He He turns around and says, "Okay, so this is what you want to do?" He is appalled after Mayor Mondani spotlighted his Manhattan house in a viral video announcing a new P uh tier tax and uh hedge fund titan signaled he might even yank a $6 billion that he's a part of in a video last week.
I think you may have that video, Rob. When Mondani was talking about this, it was a 24,000 square foot property that he owned on you know, the address is public. 238 $238 million that he bought in 2019, the most expensive home in the country. We've secured He's explaining the tax. Rob, do you have a clip on Griffin?
I do not. I um You put yellow here. So, is that is that Mondani's video that Yeah, I'm sorry. That was Mondani's video. Okay, got it. So, by the way, when when he's talking about something like this, Griffin whose net worth is estimated to be $50 billion wasn't amused. The top executive at his hedge fund sent a company-wide email Thursday afternoon blasting the mayor's comments and hinting at a potential reversal on a massive midtown project.
Ready for this? "We're about to commence the redevelopment of 350 Park Avenue creating 6,000 highly paid construction jobs and supporting the creation of more than 15,000 permanent jobs in midtown New York." wrote Chief Operating Officer Gerald Beeson in an email obtained by the post. The project, if we move forward, will entail more than $6 billion of spending.
So, a dumb policy that he comes up with could end up costing 15,000 New Yorkers a job, permanent job, and 6,000 construction workers in New York. Double dumb. Tom, your thoughts on the story. Well, guess what? Do you remember when Bloomberg went out and said, "We're going to make flipping burgers not a There's this quote he had and I'm going to butcher it here.
We're going to make flipping burgers not dishonorable. We're going to make it a living wage." And he said, "This is what we're doing to the minimum wage at fast food." Remember that? Mhm. And so do you also remember how quickly McDonald's put in ordering kiosks that eliminated jobs at those McDonald's?
You still had people making food and everything in the back, but there it eliminated my understanding was about seven counter workers per McDonald's cuz they don't all work at once. It was like three at a time working their own shifts. Congratulations. Capitalism always wins. Money finds, you know, as they say water finds its own level.
You know, whenever there's a leak in the house, they say water will find the level point. Guess what? Capitalism always finds its own level. And if you want to if you want to sit there and you want to make socialist policies, unless you're going to be so dictatorial, the unintended consequences are going to come back on you and they're not going to be good.
And so you you think everybody's going to stay put under this kind of leadership? You think they're going to stay put under this tax? Ask Bloomberg what happened. He always denied it. Always denied it. But he caused kiosk acceleration to come to New York City and this is going to cause people leaving to also accelerate.
Yeah, again, it's it's common sense. But by the way, Tom, isn't Hochul almost flirting with the idea of supporting him on this idea? Rob, don't you have a clip where Hochul is almost thinking about supporting him? Tom, I We talked about this 2 days ago. Yeah, Hochul Hochul is stuck. She needs votes and she needs supports, but she's trying to run this balancing act because she doesn't want to be the one that pays the bill because then she's going to have to raise tax on all New Yorkers living in the outlying areas in the state.
Get it? Because somebody's got to pay for it first. Is this it, Rob? Yes, sir. Go for it. Watch this. the second home thing. Watch this, folks. Go ahead. proposing a common sense surcharge on high-value second homes in New York City, homes that in many cases sit vacant for a large part of the year. We have the inventory.
They're part of our skyline, but those people are not part of our city. You know what? Translation. If you've got more, they want more. You know what is crazy though? Like you know what state has more of this than any other state in America that as a second home? The one we're in. Yeah. Florida. And what do they say?
You know what DeSantis is doing by the way? Let's I got to tell you, DeSantis man, if he if he if he gets a good marketing team behind him, DeSantis what he's doing right now, he said the revenue for real estate property tax went in the last 5-6 years from $30 billion to $63 billion that they're collecting.
He says, "We don't need that additional $33 billion." So, DeSantis is sitting out there saying, "Hey, if you're if you're living from another place and you're here, pay the property taxes. I'm okay with that." DeSantis doesn't want to hurt them, but DeSantis is saying, "Let's reward the homestead people." So, imagine if if he This is like Mondani saying, "Fair.
He's going to pay the property taxes, Ken Griffin, and all the rich people that have $5 million homes, but New Yorkers that are here, homestead, you don't pay any taxes." But they're not going through incentive. It's punishment punishment. Punishment punishment versus Florida's like, "Let's incentivize young people to not have to pay taxes or homestead people." It's a very different mindset.
Elon, Yeah, and you want people like that in your state. You want people who are going to invest massive amounts of money into property, not use the systems, not have to take advantage of welfare. You know what I mean? All the all the benefits that people want, they're not using those benefits. And they're coming in and putting a ton of money, a ton of development.
It's this ideology that you know, over reality. And I don't understand how socialists don't pick up on it. It's the most confusing thing in the world to me where time and time again they go, "Oh, we have to raise minimum wage." and then you see the decay of jobs or in a situation like this. So, and I love what DeSantis said that people who own a home shouldn't have to pay high property taxes.
That's the exact right approach. You incentivize people to own homes, but you also bring in economic growth and incentivize investment. How much how much So, Ken Griffin's house penthouse is $238 million. What's going to be a What's the tax? Do we know the number there? Yeah, the property tax doesn't stop and the homeowners association doesn't stop.
So, the So, guess what? So, the 5% of that, Tom? The doorman's employment doesn't stop. The people that were paid to clean the to clean the building, window washers, their employment doesn't stop. None of that stuff stops whether you live there or not. And the fact is he's there a considerable part of the time because he's part of Citadel.
And so, I mean, come on. And And I want people to understand Sorry to cut you off, Elon. I want people to understand you you bust your butt By the way, Ken Griffin didn't inherit money. He busted his butt, became a freaking And he was between $2 to $3 million he's paying property tax on on that on penthouse every year.
Every year. So, they want to add another tax because he's not there or whatever, which is going to be astronomical. You already know that. But you bust your butt, you become successful, you're creating jobs like you talked about, and now the mayor of this town is shamelessly looking in the camera and saying, "We're going to tax you." And again saying, "I'm going to give it for free this and free health care for illegals that are going to come here.
I'm going to incentivize them." And it goes back to the, you know, either Christian or Muslim. I don't care what religion they are. If you're going to If you find out that you're going to get free everything, why wouldn't you want it? I'm coming and I'm bringing everybody home. By the way, I'm going to have babies here, too.
I'm going to anchor myself here so this baby has to be here. I think it's absolutely disgusting and it's happened How long has he been in charge, Pat? Who? Like Mondani? A little over a year, I think. Since January. No, no, he got he got he got elected. Is anything going to happen cuz all these plans that he's talking about are going to take a while.
Meanwhile, Hochul supports it. That is And it's very dangerous. it and Hochul fears AOC. Hochul has to support him. man. That's going to be the problem. If Hochul fears fears AOC cuz AOC has whose back? Mondaire Jones, they're all Marxists. So, that that's the problem that he has. I'm just lost by how again they don't see the economic consequence.
Do they not They can't be that dumb. So, there is something intentional going on. That's That's my question right now. me crazy. That's what drives me crazy. Like, what what is it? What Give me the sales pitch. socialist path to asset seizure. Yeah. This is step one. Did you see him going into people's He did a There was a video, Robbie, you might be able to find it.
He was going to people's houses and going in and they were inspecting stuff. It's funny that you say that, Tom. I just saw I know, Adam, you want to say something. Robbie, if you can find it. Mondaire was going to people's apartments. Well, imagine you're a successful millionaire, billionaire, whatever, and you open up your X account, your Instagram, and Zohran Mamdani's in front of your house being like, "Look at this rich bastard over here.
We're going to tax the rich." And you're Ken Griffin, you bought a second apartment in New York, you moved your whole business from Chicago to Florida, you know, for a lifestyle, aka taxes, and there's Zohran Mamdani calling you out? You've just made an enemy of a $50 billion guy. Not only him, any billionaire in America is like, "Dude, not only am I not am I maybe going to move out of New York, I'm not going to build anything in New York." So, to call out Ken Griffin for a 238 billion dollar million dollar apartment, you're going to potentially lose how much money in investment?
$6 billion? Forget about the $6 billion. The real cost worse than $6 billion is the 15,000 permanent jobs. Bingo. By the way, 16,000 15,000 permanent jobs at what price point you think it's going to be, Tom? 150,000? 125,000? For sure. They'll ask you that. They'll ask you that. You'll have analysts at $80,000, but you'll have a bunch of
York, it's going to be more than that because it's going to be 150 Remember when Amazon was trying to move there and AOC and Hochul was like, "What are you doing? Be quiet." It was 25,000 jobs at $150,000 a year and and Bezos was like, "You know what? We won't go to New York City. We'll go elsewhere.
Somebody else going to take those jobs. It's double dumb what he's doing." And and the behind closed doors, I wonder how many people are sitting there saying, "Well, you know, I don't know if this is a good idea. We got to kind of make a move." You're not hearing a lot of the complaints are happening, but not at the levels where people are worried about it yet.
I haven't seen it at that level yet. Do you remember what Kathy Hochul said a couple weeks ago? She's like, "Hey guys in Florida, come back to New York. We need your tax revenue." So, which one is it? So,
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