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why should investors trust crypto why do you trust crypto at this point yes if you look at the the blockchains let's use uh uh the Bitcoin blockchain and ethereum what you'll find is they have the infrastructure the technology has not skipped a beat uh throughout this entire crisis in fact the hash rate uh bitcoin's hash rate is at an all-time high and that is a real indication of the security of the network uh on ethereum we're seeing uh the total value staked at 24 billion that is an all-time high so we think the infrastructure is working beautifully as far as coinbase this is an onshore uh regulated uh company and wanting to help shape regulations Brian Armstrong the CEO and Alicia CFO have been leaning in and into what's going on right now and saying okay Regulators we need more clarity in order to protect uh to protect investors those who wanted to uh get involved with a certain types of crypto were forced offshore and uh look at what's happened so I I think that coinbase is going to come out here uh looking very very strong it just lost a very big competitor in FTX well what is the market missing though because you know that could be one narrative Kathy but at the same time we haven't exactly seen shares of coinbase rally since FTX has collapsed do you think to you that represents potentially broader concern about just people's interest in crypto following ftx's collapse no I think it's more fear I think uh many people say we don't know what we don't know uh and uh so what we do is we step back uh you know put a little perspective into the situation here and what do we have uh so the entire crypto asset ecosystem is an 800 billion dollar ecosystem apple is three times larger in terms of market cap so that's some perspective many people are saying well okay is this another Lehman could this be uh you know could could we see the domino effect here I've just given you one reason why the banking system back in 0809 trillions and trillions of dollars and it was the global banking system uh right now we have it seems from FDX uh five to ten billion dollars uh in creditors uh if as uh as FDX has filed bankruptcy they will be making claims if you look at Lehman that was 1.2 trillion dollars in claims so again just trying to put perspective this is fraud this is Madoff Madoff was 64 billion dollars in claims again FTX 5 to 10 billion now I know that uh crypto assets are you know they attract a lot of attention this is um you know the the the the three revolutions we talk about all the time you know a new monetary system in in terms of the first Global private meaning not government controlled digital right rules-based monetary system that's Bitcoin a very big idea Defy is a very big idea and uh while that has been uh thrown into question in terms of you know shifting from uh one exchange to another uh we've had a lot of Shifting around but I think I think defy in terms of taking the middlemen out of financial services and and making the ecosystem much more transparent with much less counterparty risk is going to take off it will continue to move forward we believe
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