Apple, Tesla stock split was the smart move at the right time: Dan Ives

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애플과 테슬라의 주식분할은 적절한 시점의 현명한 결정이며, 두 종목은 더 오를 여지가 있다는 주장. 기술주 전반: 펀더멘털이 여전히 받쳐주고 있어 기술주, 특히 FANG 및 소프트웨어·사이버보안 등 기술 생태계 전반이 추가로 약 20% 상승할 수 있다고 봄. 기술주는 '녹색불'이라는 입장. 마이크로소프트·클라우드: 클라우드 부문 관련 MSFT가 추가로 30~40% 상승 여력이 있다고 언급. 사이버보안(지스케일, 팔로알토 등)도 계속 상승할 것으로 봄. 애플: 서비스 사업부 가치를 약 9,500억 달러로 평가하고, 연간 약 600억 달러 매출 흐름을 언급. 전 세계 아이폰 9.5억 대 중 3.5억 대가 업그레이드 대상이라며 '수퍼사이클'이자 10년에 한 번 있는 기회로 봄. 아직 리레이팅 중간 단계라고 평가. 테슬라: 전기차 시장에서 '테슬라의 세상'이며 경쟁사는 임대료를 내는 중이라는 평가. 중국 주가 400달러 언급, 3분기 인도량 기대치 상회 전망. 배터리데이가 게임체인저가 될 것으로 기대(100만 마일 배터리, 원가 절감, 제3자 공급사 발표 가능성), 배터리 기술과 브랜드가 차별화 요소. 아이폰12·5G: 5G와 아이폰12 결합으로 수퍼사이클이 될 것이며 역대 최대 제품 사이클이 될 것으로 전망. 중국에서도 6,000~7,000만 대 업그레이드 기회 언급, 아시아 체크 결과도 긍정적이라고 함. 리스크/조건: 주가가 분할 전 대비 상승하면서 투자자 평가가 엇갈리는 상황을 언급(분할 전 300달러에서는 싫어하고 400달러에서도 부정적, 500달러에서 더 높아지는 식의 평가 혼선). 주가 상승이 지속되면 분할 전 기준 600~700달러 가능성을 언급. 출연자 전망: 애플·테슬라·MSFT·기술주 전반에 대한 강한 낙관론, 단기 변동성보다 펀더멘털과 수퍼사이클을 강조.

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01. always good to have you on so first let's get down to these stock splits are you pro these stocks list you think they have the potential to move tesla and apple even higher yeah i do i mean i look i think this was a smart move by the companies and the board and ultimately i believe there's gonna be more star wars that follow and i think right now they're just in a position of strength and if you see what's happening in terms of the market of course in the ev side for tesla and then apple going into a super cycle and this was the smart move at the right time in terms of a stock split and i view it as putting more sort of gasoline in the tank in terms of these stocks moving higher all right these are two of the biggest tech names out there is there more room for tech to run i mean have we hit the peak of the coveted economy or do you see investors putting more money in these big tech names yeah i believe that especially fang and overall attack could move another 20 higher over in their six nine months and even though the haters are going to continue to hate i think the fundamentals and the re-reading continues to be there in tech stocks not just large cap tech when you look at software cyber security and really across the whole sort of ecosystem everything we're seeing fundamentally these stocks continue to move higher i still think it's a green light to own tech so when we're talking about tech that that definition has changed somewhat tesla is apparently a tech company not a car company and we're talking about amazon not necessarily being an e-commerce company it's a tech company i think people go back and forth on that what other big tech names do you see having more room to run besides apple and tesla in those thing names well to me i think microsoft amii regardless of tick tock i think that's the name when you look at cloud you know that that's a stock that i think has another 30 40 percent upside here and then i think when you even look at names like cyber security there's names like z scale or pow out though other names i think continue to run overall take a step back here you know that there's uh what i would say was supply demand of secular growth stocks that's why tech not just across software but large cap tech these stocks continue to move higher and of course you look at apple that's a super cycle and i believe it's a once in a decade opportunity in terms of upgrade cycle that's why i think we're still in the middle innings of a re-rating in apple here wow some strong words there dan so let's as as you said let's take a step back let's talk about apple and tesla is this all animal spirits the stock split retail investors that are going to move these stocks higher or are there other fundamental reasons why people should invest i mean of course that's going to be a piece of the the puzzle that we're seeing in terms of retail but the big thing here is just the fundamentals you look at apple i mean the services business i think is worth 950 billion that's a 60 billion dollar revenue stream going to next year and then you have 350 million of 950 million iphones worldwide in upgrade opportunity that's the key even institutionally speaking when you look at apple and in terms of tesla in the ev market right now it's tesla's world and everyone else is paying rent china's worth 400 a share you see delivery the head expectations for 3q and that's why even though the stock split is going to be the headline it speaks to a broader issue here that the stronger getting stronger and obviously these are two names front and center so dan right now i'm using my nora link to google the fact that battery day is coming up i'm joking how big of an impact would that have on tesla stock where do you where do you see that taking the stock well i think battery day is really going to be a game changer for tesla because i think we're expecting a million mile battery as well as even just more price price-powered that they're going to announce even a third-party supplier and i think there's a lot of anticipation for that because ultimately ev you have competition across the board domestically and globally it comes down to battery technology and brand that's the differentiation of tesla and that's why it's really been almost a teflon-like model in this coveted pandemic where you're seeing other automakers continue to suffer all right dan i got two words for you iphone 12 what does that mean for apple and what could that even mean for other retailers out there as this new phone hits the market yeah and i'll and and i'll go back and i'll say that there's one word it's 5g because you put 5g along with iphone 12 that equals a super cycle and i think what it comes down to is it's not just pen-up demand this is something where i believe it's going to be the largest product cycle they've seen in their history and and even when you go back the iphone 6 was really this what i'd say something that filed maybe a super cycle and i think this is even in china i mean china 60 or 70 million iphones are a window of an upgrade opportunity and our checks and asia over the last three to four weeks continue to show up ticks and that's why a lot of head scratchers with the stock remember at 300 before the split they hate it at 400 deposit at 500 heated more but i believe if the stock continues to go higher you know our bulkhead six 700 hours obviously obviously just pre-split and push but that's one on 51.75 you