🔴 Peter Schiff Debates on Bitcoin, Blockchain, Gold

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결론: 피터 쉬프는 비트코인이 역대 최대 규모의 버블이며 결국 급락할 것이라고 주장하고, 닉 스파노스는 비트코인이 블록체인 기술 혁명의 핵심이라며 반박한다. 쉬프의 핵심 주장: 암호화폐 전체가 거대한 투기 버블이며, 비트코인이 로켓처럼 올랐으니 내려갈 때도 더 빠를 것이라고 본다. 쉬프의 근거: 비트코인은 디지털 토큰일 뿐 실물 가치나 소유권이 없고, 교환 수단이나 가치 저장 수단으로도 쓰기 어렵다(느리고 비싸고 변동성이 크다). 암호화폐 공급은 무제한에 가깝게 늘어날 수 있다. 쉬프의 리스크 경고: 지금 시점에 매수하는 사람들은 거의 모든 것을 잃을 수 있으며, 가격이 꺾이면 같은 이유로 매도가 몰릴 것이다. 스파노스의 핵심 주장: 비트코인은 버블이 아니라 기존 금융 시스템의 거품을 터뜨리는 핀이며, 산업혁명 같은 기술 혁명이다. 스파노스의 근거: 비트코인 블록체인은 가장 큰 블록체인이며 채굴 참여자와 채굴기가 많아 신뢰도가 높다. 채굴자는 비트코인으로 보상을 받는다. 양자컴퓨팅 위협에도 이미 대응 방안이 마련되어 있다. 스파노스의 반론: 비트코인으로 할인된 금을 사거나 아마존 상품권을 살 수 있다고 주장했다. 가격 방향 예측: 영상에서 쉬프는 비트코인이 1~3개월 내 하락할 것이라고 명시적으로 말하지 않고 장기적 붕괴를 경고했으며, 스파노스는 상승 가능성을 강조했다. 단기 가격 예측은 명확하지 않다. 언급 종목: 비트코인(쉬프: 버블, 장기 급락 / 스파노스: 기술 혁명, 긍정적).

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01. cryptocurrency bitcoin has had a rollercoaster ride over the last week hitting a record twenty thousand dollars per coin at the weekend before sliding back to under 17 000 on tuesday to discuss bitcoin let's bring in a couple of expert guests i'm joined by peter schiff he's the ceo and chief global strategist of euro pacific capital inc and also by nick spanos who's the co-founder of the zap project that works to solve one of the biggest challenges in the blockchain industry uh welcome to you both gentlemen um if i may come to you first peter i know that you're not from previous interviews you're not a big fan of bitcoin we've seen the roller coaster ride continue when do you think if you think this is a bubble when's it going to burst well i wish i knew that but i i am sure that it is a bubble in fact it's probably the biggest bubble i've ever seen in my career as an investor and i've seen quite a few bubbles and i'm familiar with the psychology that surrounds them and you know bitcoin has all of the characteristics of a bubble in fact it's not just bitcoin it's the entire cryptocurrency uh space i think it's a massive speculative bubble and maybe we've seen the top and maybe we haven't i don't know but i think when the top is in i think this thing is going to come crashing down it's not just going to go down slowly you know there's an expression that markets take the stairs up and the elevator down well uh you know bitcoin took a rocket ship up and it's going to come down even faster yeah nick i mean it's exponential the curve at the moment the increase in the in the value and i thought this was an interesting point i heard recently people you know chattering away on social media in russia saying oh you know we really should have got on board with bitcoin and i've heard stories of people in the u.s you know remortgaging their houses to invest in it isn't that the point they say when it's stocks and shares that you know you really want to get out you're asking me yeah um uh all right i'm sorry about that uh i had some static on this thing oh so it's okay i'm just saying that isn't this the point that you know people would panic well to answer the first question bitcoin is not a bubble bitcoin actually is the pin it's the pin that's popping the legacy financial systems bubble over printing of money uh over valuation of uh stocks bitcoin is a technology people don't seem to understand and once they do understand they come on board it's a technology and it's a revolution just like the the industrial revolution changed the world you know uh this is a information calculation computation communication crypto economic revolution that's uh changing the world right now and if you don't understand what it is it takes a little while to learn about it uh but once you realize what bitcoin is uh you're going to realize that you're at the ground floor i mean uh was the train a bubble i mean there have been bubbles probably in when the uh the trains were invented but some people stayed blacksmiths like some people saying goldsmiths but some people are staying blacksmiths and uh you know the train's gonna pass you by and then other people became uh carnegies and rockefellers and uh well let's go to peter peter it's the future according according to nick people are getting it at the at the ground level i mean the beauty of it the supporters say it's decentralized it's everything that banks aren't you know they're not the banks can't come and just take your money away when it's bitcoin and it's the blockchain well first of all nobody buying in today is getting in at the ground floor i mean if anything you're going to be left holding the bag but bitcoin is not a technology the technology is the blockchain and we can have an argument about you know how relevant the blockchain is and how important it may or may not be but bitcoin is nothing it's simply a digital token that utilizes the blockchain so when you buy into bitcoin you don't own anything except that one bitcoin you don't have any ownership of any kind of railroad you've got one car and that car is going to be obsolete you know i agree that we have over valuation we have a problem in fiat currents we have problem let me fit it we have a problem in fiat currencies but you know you mentioned over printing we have lots of digital currencies there's 13 hotter of them there's massive inflation of digital currencies and even bitcoin itself has spun off bitcoin cash bitcoin gold there's no limit to the supply of bitcoin branded worthless tokens that can be created what do you make of that point because i think it's a fair one nick i mean when the the blockchain forks off and you get different you get different bitcoin currencies you know can i answer this i mean what he said was bitcoin is nothing he's trying to say that bitcoin's nothing but bitcoin is a reward system right for holding up the blockchain without uh without bitcoin without bitcoin's blockchain bitcoin blockchain is the largest blockchain ever it's the largest for the first one out and has the most participants there's millions of uh mining machines uh handling all the transaction all and all the information and calculations that are happening on this blockchain so when you're a miner and you and you uh participate in the clearing all this information you uh get a piece a little slice of a bitcoin as being part of a pool you get a slice of of bitcoin and that's the reward system so yes bitcoin is a is a is a technology and the miners get rewarded in bitcoin for their participation and there are other currencies no the bitcoin itself is not the technology it could be the reward but you don't need bitcoin to have a blockchain there are all these other cryptocurrencies that have blockchains and they don't use bitcoin and you can use blockchains for anything i mean well the law of airlines what about the fact that you don't have a consensus the largest blockchain is the only one the largest the largest blockchain is the only one that matters the one that does the most no it doesn't the most people that are involved is the one that's most trustworthy yeah the small if you could have a blockchain in your pocket and not having no but senseless uh model or algorithm working meaning you don't have any minors and you don't have any consensus it doesn't mean anything it's just a really really slow database but what and that's what it is but what is what is the value what is the inherent value of a bitcoin what is what can you do with a bitcoin to make it worth seventeen thousand dollars if i have one bitcoin what what can i use it for what can i do with it uh where i derive seventeen thousand dollars worth of value well you seem to misunderstand and a lot of people do and the people who don't misunderstand actually buy it the reality is bitcoin is the technology satoshi's there's a hundred million satoshi's per no no it's not a you could buy anything as a matter of fact yeah i could buy gold at a discount i go to paxfield.com and i can buy gold at a disc i can buy gold that's 60 off with bitcoin no you have to sell the bitcoin you have to sell your business you can buy a credit card no you have to sell the bitcoin called peter i just want to get back to a question i was trying to ask nick earlier you know people are piling into this now just how dangerous are we the situation we're in now how dangerous is it you know where people are remortgaging and spending savings on bitcoin it is very dangerous the people's monetary i think they're going to get rich quick go ahead pizza yeah and look unfortunately the people people who got in years ago or even people that got in at the beginning of the year yes they have the opportunity to cash out and make a lot of money but people who are buying into this thing at these prices or higher prices are going to lose basically everything i mean these currencies are going to trade to zero or pretty close to it once this bubble pops because right now the only reason that people are buying bitcoin is because the price is going up and when it turns around then they're going to be selling it for the same reason there's no value in the bitcoin you can't use it as money it's too slow it's too expensive and too volatile so it's not a media of exchange it's not a store of value because there's no value to store it is a it is a pure speculative digital asset that as soon as it stops going up it's going to implode nick i just want to look into the future because the price obviously keeps increasing but you know everything is is on based on this blockchain everyone thinks it's the new miracle what about when quantum computing comes along in a few years it is anticipated won't that render the blockchain actually very vulnerable well there's a lot of uh fixes for that already written and that we would have a fork and implement the fork that would take care of that now to answer the question before he said you can't buy anything with bitcoin i mean that's not true you can buy anything you buy today you can buy with bitcoin you buy it at a discount and uh you can buy uh credit on amazon you have to buy the bitcoin first the coupons people have yeah you go to the site and you plug it in and they give you the no that's after you sell your bitcoin you have to sell the bitcoin no you can't they don't have anything they don't your gold no one's hanging around with a gold test kit taking your gold i'm gonna have to interrupt you i do apologize but also this conversation needs another 20 30 minutes to resolve but i do apologize we are about to run out of time many thanks to my guest peter schiff chief exec of euro pacific capital and nick spanos co-founder of the zap project thank you guys