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Why Li Lu and Duan Yongping Are Buying PDD?

Deep Value Investing · 2026-08-28 · 유튜브 시청 1,055 · Board Views 7 · International

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결론: PDD는 실적 헤드라인(순이익 12% 감소, 매출 컨센서스 미달)과 달리 영업이익은 8% 증가했으며, 순이익 감소는 기타손익 약 74억 위안 적자 등 영업 외 요인이 주도했다는 분석이다. 다만 자산경량형 플랫폼에서 물류 등 자본집약형 사업으로 전환 중이라 잉여현금흐름 가치 평가에는 보수적 조정이 필요하며, 진행자는 저평가 가능성을 제시하면서도 지정학·규제 리스크를 함께 강조한다. [실적 해석] 2분기 매출은 컨센서스 1,163.5억 위안을 밑도는 1,123.6억 위안이었으나 전년비 8% 성장했고, 거래서비스 부문은 13% 성장했다. 영업이익은 8% 증가한 276억 위안, 주주귀속 순이익은 12% 감소한 271.8억 위안이다. 순이익 감소의 원인은 기타 영업외손익이 전년 동기 +1.2억 위안에서 -74억 위안으로 악화된 데 있다. 진행자는 이 손실이 일회성인지 불투명하다고 보고 추가 확인이 필요하다고 말한다. [자본지출과 현금흐름 구조 변화] 유형자산(PP&E)은 3월말 15억 위안에서 6월말 47.5억 위안으로 3개월 만에 급증했다. 중국 내 자체 브랜드 투자, 현지 창고, 10여 개 성·시 대상 농촌 라스트마일 배송망 구축, 테무의 해외 현지 풀필먼트 인프라 구축이 원인으로 제시됐다. 진행자는 미래 오너 이익을 영업현금흐름에서 이 자본지출을 뺀 값으로 봐야 한다고 주장한다. 기존 자산경량 모델의 높은 FCF 시대는 지나가고 있다는 입장이다. [재무상태와 운전자본] 현금성자산·단기투자 4,564억 위안 중 제한된 현금 773억 위안, 입점업체 미지급금 1,099억 위안, 입점업체 보증금 185억 위안이 포함되어 있어 이를 주주 배당 가능 현금으로 보면 안 된다. 음(-)의 운전자본 구조에서 발생한 플로트이기 때문이다. 경영진이 대규모 자사주 매입을 하지 않는 점은 '자본배분 역설'로 지적되며, 그 이유로 해외 확장 비용, 무역정책 리스크 대비 현금 보유, 공급망 투자 우선을 든다. [기관 투자자 동향] Li Lu의 Himalaya Capital은 2분기 PDD 지분을 133.5% 늘려 약 610만 주를 추가 매수했고, 해당 펀드의 미국 주식 포트폴리오(약 8.2억 달러)에서 PDD 비중은 22.2%다. 찰리 멍거 영향을 받은 가치투자자로 소개된다. [밸류에이션] 최근 12개월 잉여현금흐름은 164.8억 달러, 시가총액 약 1,250억 달러 기준 FCF 수익률 13.2%다. 정상화된 오너 이익 950억 위안을 기준으로 한 기본 시나리오 DCF 내재가치는 주당 163.63달러이며, 30% 안전마진 적용 시 매수 적정가는 114.54달러다. 현재 주가 87.75달러는 이 기준보다 낮다고 제시된다. 주가수익비율(PER)은 9.7배다. [리스크] 미국 디미니머스(de minimis, 800달러 이하 소액 면세) 폐지 가능성, EU 유사 정책, 중국 내 알리바바·JD와의 보조금 경쟁에 따른 마진 압박, VIE(변동이익실체) 구조로 인한 계약상 권리 리스크가 언급된다. 또한 활성 구매자·주문량 등 핵심 지표 공개 중단으로 투명성이 낮아졌다는 점도 부정 요인이다. [출연자 전망] 진행자는 정상화 오너 이익이 900~1,000억 위안 수준에 안착하면 현 주가가 명확히 저평가라고 보면서도, 물류 투자가 과잉 자산이 되거나 AI 기반 직접 제조 등 새로운 경쟁자로 인해 해자가 약화될 가능성을 함께 제기한다. 결론적으로 저평가 가능성과 구조적 리스크가 공존하는 딥밸류 퍼즐로 정리한다.

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01. Disclaimer. All analysis is based on publicly available sources and may be subject to revisions or differing interpretations. All contents from this channel is for research and entertainment purposes only and does not constitute any investment or financial advice or service. Conduct your own due diligence before making investment financial decisions.

02. Okay. So, um, imagine you're walking into this really high stakes casino. Okay. And, uh, you're watching a player lose just a massive, highly publicized hand. the crowd is gasping. They're shaking their heads and everyone just kind of walks away from the table, right? But then the sharpest, most successful players in the room, they don't leave.

03. They uh they actually immediately sit down at that exact same table and just push all their chips in. Oh wow. Yeah. And that is kind of exactly what is happening right now in the stock market with um PDD holdings. It really is. Yeah. It's a fascinating dynamic. So today we are doing a deep dive into a comprehensive deep value analysis report.

04. Uh this is dated August 25th, 2026. And it covers PDD holdings, which for anyone who doesn't know is the massive parent company behind the e-commerce juggernauts Pindu Duo and T-Moon. Right. And as of this report, the stock price is sitting at uh $87.75. 8775. Got it. So, our mission for this deep dive is to basically figure out why the quote unquote smart money is aggressively buying a stock that at least to the casual observer, you know, it looks like it just posted some really terrifying financial numbers.

05. Exactly. Going to try to decode the real story behind their cash flow here cuz um normally reading an earnings report feels pretty straightforward, right? like that income goes up, the business is healthy, net, income goes down, uh the business is in trouble. People just love a binary headline. Oh, we absolutely do.

06. It's it's cognitively easy to just look at a, you know, a single bolded number on a press release and just make a snap judgment, right? But the moment you step into the territory of deep value investing, uh, relying on those surface level headlines becomes incredibly dangerous. The the financial landscape we're looking at today with PDD is, well, it's incredibly complex.

07. Okay, let's unpack this because we need to look at those terrifying headline numbers from PDD's second quarter of 2026. Let's do it. So, the street man, but by that I mean the general consensus of analysts, they expected revenue to hit uh 116.35 billion R&B. Mhm. But PDD missed that target. They came in at 112.36 billion.

08. Right. So immediately, you know, the market sees a topline miss. And then you scroll down to the bottom line and net income attributable to ordinary shareholders dropped by 12% year-over-year. 12%. Yeah. Landing at 27.18 billion R&B. So on the surface it's like okay growth is missing expectations and income is actively shrinking.

09. And that is the exact narrative that the uh algorithmic trading bots and the casual headline readers reacted to. Yeah. But when you physically peel back the layers of the income statement, a completely different reality emerges. Okay. the core operating franchise, you know, that the actual day-to-day business of selling goods and services that didn't shrink at all, operating profit actually rose by 8%.

10. Wait, really? Yeah. It hit 27 6 billion R&B. Wow. And revenue, despite missing those, you know, sky-high analyst estimates, was still up 8%. Okay. and their transaction services segment, which is kind of their critical growth engine, that was up 13%. Hold on, I need to we need to reconcile this mask.

11. Sure. If the actual operating profit from running the e-commerce platform went up by 8%, how on earth does the final net income drop by 12%. Like that money had to vanish somewhere, right? Yeah. It comes down to a really crucial accounting mechanism that's detailed in our source report. that 12% net income drop, it was driven almost entirely by a massive swing below the operating line.

12. Okay, let's let's define below the operating line for a second just to be clear. Yeah, please. So, operating profit is the money you make selling your actual product, right? Exactly. And below the line is kind of all the financial noise, correct? Things like um currency exchange swings or I don't know, investment writedowns or maybe a onetime legal settlement.

13. You've got it perfectly. It's the financial activity that occurs outside of the core business operations. So on PDD's income statement, there is a specific line item called other income or loss net. Yeah. Now in the second quarter of last year, 2025, that line was a relatively quiet positive 120 million RMBB.

14. Mhm. But this quarter it plummeted to a negative 7.4 billion RMBB. Oh wow. Yeah. That single line item dragged the entire net income number down. Okay. So what does this all mean? Like as an investor, can I just brush off a 7.4 four billion R&B loss as you know, oh, it's just a weird accounting thing.

15. Or is there a chance that management is intentionally burying bad news in that murky line item because I mean, let's be honest, 7.4 billion R&B is not pocket change. No, it's not. That's a massive hit. Your skepticism is perfectly placed there. You absolutely cannot just wave a magic wand and exclude a loss of that magnitude.

16. Right. The source report explicitly notes that PDD's earnings release, well, it doesn't provide enough granular detail to confidently classify that loss as a one-time non-recurring event. Okay. So, it's a bit of a mystery. It requires deep investigation. Yeah. However, the critical error would be assuming that the core e-commerce business is collapsing by 12% because of that bottom line number.

17. Oh, I see. That's a rookie mistake. The true story of PDD right now is not actually found in the margins of the income statement. It's found in the physical transformation of the company itself. Well, that's interesting. Which I guess transitions us perfectly from the spreadsheets to the physical reality of what PDD is actually building out there in the real world.

18. Exactly. Because historically PDD operated an extraordinarily assetike model. Right. Very much so. They were the ultimate digital middleman. They built the software. They connected the buyer in some rural village to a manufacturer in a factory. They took their fee and they never actually touched the physical goods.

19. Never. And that asset light approach is exactly why their free cash flow was always so legendary. Yeah. That was the original magic of the business model because they didn't need to build massive warehouses or buy, you know, fleets of delivery trucks. Their capital expenditures were tiny, right? Almost all the cash generated from operations flowed straight to the bottom line as free cash flow.

20. They just ran the digital marketplace. But according to this deep value analysis, that era is pretty much over. It is. The report highlights a massive rapid surge in capital intensity. To put this in perspective for our listeners, it feels like if um if Uber suddenly decided to stop using independent drivers with their own cars and instead decided to just go out and buy a million of its own vehicles and hire the drivers directly.

21. That's a great analogy. I mean, that completely fundamentally changes the math of the entire company, doesn't it? It absolutely does. What's fascinating here is how violently fast this strategic pivot is happening. We are watching a fundamental rewiring of their corporate DNA in real time. It's crazy.

22. The numbers in the report are just staggering. Let's look at property, plant, and equipment. Accountants call this PP&E. Mhm. It is essentially the physical hard assets a company owns, right? The concrete, the steel, the land. So on March 31st of 2026, PDD held 1.5 billion R&B in PP&E. Right. Just 90 days later on June 30th, that number had exploded to 4.7 5 billion R&B.

23. Yeah. Going from 1.1 billion to 4.7 billion a single quarter isn't just, you know, tweaking the supply chain. That is building an empire of concrete. Like what exactly are they buying? Well, they are buying the physical infrastructure of a traditional retail giant. Wow. Oh, management has explicitly signaled that this is their new core strategic priority.

24. Domestically in China, we are talking about investing heavily in first party brands and establishing local warehousing. They're building out rural last mile delivery networks across more than 10 provinces and municipalities in China. That's huge. And on the international front with Teimu, they are shifting away from their original model.

25. They used to just ship cheap parcels directly from Chinese factories to overseas consumers. Yeah, I bought stuff like that. It takes like 3 weeks to get here. Exactly. But now they are moving toward local merchants and building out local fulfillment infrastructure. So they're building warehouses in the US, in Europe, and basically across the globe.

26. Yes. They're essentially trying to replicate the Amazon logistics network. In many ways, yes, they are. And building a global logistics network requires billions and billions in hard capital. So for anyone analyzing the value of the stock, the fundamental formula has permanently changed. Historically, you looked at PDD's massive operating cash flow and thought, you know, fantastic.

27. That is the cash the owners get to keep, right? Straight to the bank. But the new reality is much heavier. Future owner earnings now equals operating cash flow minus these massive ongoing supply chain capital expenditures. The gap between the cash coming in the door and the cash the company can actually distribute to shareholders, well, it's widening significantly.

28. Okay, that structural shift makes total sense. But if PDD is suddenly spending so heavily on physical infrastructure, it raises an obvious question, right? Sure. How deep are their pockets, can they actually afford this pivot? Because I'm looking at their balance sheet in this report, and it is honestly hard to comprehend.

29. It is. They are sitting on 456.4 billion RMBB in cash, cash equivalents, and short-term investments. That is an absolute war chest. is a staggering amount of liquidity on paper, but as a deep value analyst, you have to look very closely who actually owns that cash. Okay, let me use an analogy here. Go for it.

30. If I am the designated person in my apartment who collects the rent from all my roommates, right? My bank account might look incredible on the 28th of the month, I'm holding all this cash, right? But if I just take that money and assume I'm rich, I'm going to be in massive trouble when the landlord knocks on the first, right?

31. I'm just holding the money in transit, right? So, is this essentially what PDD is doing with the merchants on its platform? You've perfectly described a concept called a negative working capital float. Okay. And the source report explicitly warns that a naive valuation, meaning an investor who simply takes that 456 billion R&B cash pile and adds it directly to the company's equity value, is making a highly dangerous assumption.

32. Ah, I see. Out of that massive pile, 77.3 billion R&B is classified as restricted cash. Okay. and another 109.9 billion R&B is categorized directly as merchant payables. That is money they legally owe to the sellers on their platform. And then you have another $18.5 billion in merchant deposits. Okay.

33. So this isn't free money. This is effectively a multi-billion dollar interestf free loan from their own ecosystem. Yeah. Because they get paid by the consumer immediately, but they take weeks or months to pass that money along to the supplier. Precisely. Now, having a favorable negative working capital flow is incredibly supportive for business operations.

34. Sure. It means you never have to borrow from a bank to fund your day-to-day operations, right? But it is not fully distributable shareholder liquidity. Management cannot just take that cash, declare a massive dividend, and pay it out to investors because eventually those merchants have to get paid. Yeah.

35. The landlord is coming on the first. Exactly. Which brings up a glaring flaw that the report points out. Something we can call the capital allocation paradox. PDD is trading at a seemingly very cheap valuation right now. The standardized price to earnings or PE ratio is just 9.7x. Yep. They have tons of liquidity even after we subtract all those merchant payables we just talked about.

36. And yet management has no meaningful recurring share buyback program. Typically, if a company's stock is dirt cheap and they have a mountain of cash, they buy back their own shares to reward investors, right? Why is PDD refusing to do that? Well, if we connect this to the bigger macro picture, management is hoarding cash for very deliberate reasons.

37. Okay, they are looking down the barrel of massive long-term capital requirements. First, they need this war chest to fund Teimu's aggressive global expansion, which requires burning cash to acquire market share. Right. Expanding internationally is not cheap. Not at all. Second, they are bracing for regulatory resilience, meaning they need a massive financial cushion in case global trade policies suddenly shift against them.

38. And finally, as we just established, they are pouring billions into heavy supply chain investments. They're actively choosing internal reinvestment and survival over short-term shareholder returns. Okay, so retail investors are panicking over the earnings headline. The company's refusing to buy back its own stock.

39. The narrative seems incredibly grim. But here's where it gets really interesting. The institutional smart money is not running away. In fact, they are backing the truck up. They really are. The report digs into the Q213F filings, which just for the listener, is the mandatory form that large investment funds use to publicly disclose their US equity holdings every quarter.

40. Right. And Leelu's firm, Himalaya Capital, just made a massive move. Yeah. And for context, Leelu is widely considered one of the premier value investors in the world. He was heavily endorsed and influenced by the late Charlie Munger, Warren Buffett's longtime partner, right? A legend. So when Leelu makes a move, the value investing community pays very close attention.

41. And his move on PBD was aggressive. Himalaya Capital increased their PD position by 133.5% in the second quarter alone. Wow. They added over 6.1 million shares. So PDD now makes up a stunning 22.2% 2% of their reported US equity portfolio, which is valued at around $820 million. It's huge. That is an enormous high conviction bet on a stock that the broader market seems terrified of.

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43. Links are in the description. Perfect. So, setting the guru's actions aside for a second, let's look at the actual valuation math that might be driving a decision like that. Sure. The report conducts a detailed discounted cash flow or DCF analysis. Mhm. Can we translate this for the listener? Like what does this actually show?

44. Yes. Let's break down exactly why a deep value investor looks at this specific financial setup and sees a generational opportunity. Okay, a discounting cash flow analysis essentially tries to project all the cash a business will ever produce from today into the future and discounts it back to what that cash is worth today.

45. Right now, PDD's raw trailing free cash flow over the last 12 months is 16.48 billion US. Wow. When you weigh that against their current market cap of roughly $125 billion, it creates a massive 13.2% free cash flow yield. To put that 13.2% yield in perspective for the listener, um, if you bought a small local business for $100,000, a 13.2% yield means that business would be putting $13,200 of cold hard cash in your pocket every single year after paying all its expenses.

46. Exactly. For a massive publicly traded tech company, that kind of cash yield is practically unheard of. If you just took that raw number at face value, the stock is screamingly cheap. It is, but as we've discussed, we cannot take it at face value. Right. The new warehouses. Yes. The company is actively pivoting to a capital heavy model.

47. They are about to spend a fortune on those warehouses and supply chains. Right. And this is where the report is incredibly intellectually honest. It doesn't just blindly use the 16.48 billion number. M it applies a severe haircut to those cash flows. It does. The analyst models a normalized owner earnings base of 95 billion R&B.

48. This specifically accounts for the heavy new capital spending on physical infrastructure and it strips out all the temporary working capital float from the merchants that we talked about earlier. Right. The roommates's rent money. Exactly. It is a highly conservative estimate of the actual cash the owners get to keep.

49. And this is where the math becomes undeniable. Even with that severe conservative haircut, the base case DCF points to an intrinsic value of $16363 per share. Okay, but in value investing, you know, you never assume your projections are perfect. You apply a margin of safety, right? Think of it like building a bridge.

50. If you know the absolute maximum weight of the trucks crossing the bridge is 10 tons, you don't build a bridge designed to hold exactly 10 tons, right? That'd be terrifying. Exactly. You build one that can hold 30 tons just in case your math was slightly off. Yeah. So the report applies a strict 30% margin of safety to that intrinsic value,

51. which brings the target buy price down to $114.54. And what is the current stock price? It's sitting at $87.75. It is trading significantly below the severely discounted margin safety price. The numbers suggest it is deeply undervalued. This raises an important question though. The broader market is not entirely blind.

52. Thousands of analysts look at this stock every day. That massive discount exists for a legitimate reason. Right. People aren't just ignoring free money. Exactly. The report outlines a very serious bare case that any responsible investor must weigh against those attractive cash flows. Let's play devil's advocate then.

53. What exactly is the market so terrified of? Primarily geopolitics and regulatory crackdowns. Teimu in particular is facing intense scrutiny on a global scale. There are potential changes looming in trade policies, specifically concerning the dimminimous loophole in the US and similar policies in the EU.

54. Let's clarify that mechanism real quick. [snorts] The dimminimous rule essentially allows cheap packages, usually under $800 in the US, to be shipped directly to consumers without facing traditional tariffs or customs taxes. Yes, it is basically the lifeblood of Teimu's incredibly low prices. Exactly.

55. If regulators decide to close that loophole, Timu's crossber shipping costs will skyrocket overnight. Wow. Which would severely degrade their competitive advantage. Yeah, that makes sense. Then there is the permanent structural risk of the VIE setup for US investors. Oh yes, we should probably explain how that actually works because it's a critical nuance of investing in Chinese companies.

56. It is essential to understand when you buy a share of PDD on a US exchange, you are not actually buying direct equity ownership in the Chinese operating company that runs Pindu Duo, right? Wait, so what am I buying? You are buying an ADS, an American depository share. Okay. That share represents ownership in a shell company based in the Cayman Islands.

57. Wow. Okay. And this shell company hold contractual rights to the profits of the Chinese entity. This is known as a variable interest entity or a VIE. Okay. So, it's a contract, not true ownership. Exactly. And while it has been the standard workaround for Chinese tech listings for decades, it carries a permanent structural risk.

58. If regulations in either the US or China suddenly invalidate those contracts, oh man. Yeah. Foreign investors could be left holding the bag. That is a real risk. And beyond the geopolitical threats, they are locked in a brutal margin crushing subsidy war in China with formidable competitors like Alibaba and JD.com.

59. Very true. And honestly, the deliberate lack of transparency from PDD management is deeply frustrating for analysts. The report points out that they recently stopped disclosing key metrics like active buyers or overall order volumes, right? And that reduction in KPI disclosure is itself an analytical negative.

60. You are flying blind on some of the core health metrics that traditionally allow you to monitor an e-commerce ecosystem. Yeah. You just don't know what's going on under the hood. Exactly. If the user base starts to decay, investors might be the last to know because the visibility is so poor. Wow. But returning to the ultimate value equation as an investor, you have to weigh those very real, very severe structural risks against a business generating immense amounts of trailing free cash flow, trading at a 9.7 PE ratio with the smartest institutional money buying in.

61. So what is the primary lesson here for the learner listening today who is just trying to make sense of all these conflicting signals? The primary takeaway from this deep dive is a masterass in why you can never ever rely on a headline net income drop or a raw cash flow yield in isolation. The algorithm saw a 12% drop in net income and panicked completely missing the mechanical reality that operating profit was actually up 8%.

62. And conversely an amateur value investor might look at a 13.2% 2% free cash flow yield and blindly back up the truck, completely missing the fact that the company is fundamentally transitioning from an asset light software platform into a capital heavy logistics business. Yeah. You can't just ignore the warehouses.

63. Exactly. You must adjust for those merchant working capital floats. You have to deeply understand a company's changing capital intensity. If PDD's sustainable normalized owner earnings can settle anywhere near 90 to 100 billion RMBB after they finish paying for all these new warehouses, then the shares at $87.75 are undeniably cheap.

64. It is a classic deep value puzzle. The underlying cash flows look amazing. The geopolitical risks are terrifying, and the real truth only reveals itself when you do the hard, tedious work of normalizing the numbers. Beautifully said. But as we wrap up this deep dive, let's zoom out to a really fascinating strategic level.

65. Okay, we noted earlier that PDD's original historical moat was built on connecting demand directly to cheap supply without ever owning the physical infrastructure. Right? They were the ultimate nimble digital middleman. Now, as they pour billions upon billions of R&B into local warehouses, regional fulfillment centers, and rural logistics networks, they are fundamentally chaining themselves to a traditional, incredibly heavy retail model.

66. They are they are abandoning the pure software margins and actively buying the concrete, the steel and the trucks. Which leads to a final thought to ponder long after you finish listening today. What if the future of global commerce doesn't actually require all that concrete? Mhm. Like if a newer, nimble tech competitor emerges, someone who figures out how to completely bypass this physical infrastructure, perhaps through, I don't know, AIdriven direct manufacturing that predicts consumer demand perfectly and shift straight from the factory,

67. then PDD's multi-billion dollar pivot into heavy logistics might not be the protective moat they think they are building. Exactly. It could eventually turn into a massive graveyard of stranded assets.

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