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Bitcoin under pressure falling below $4,000 is China crack sound and cryptocurrency and calls for a bubble for a cooker are growing on the streets emo DS got more on this story SEMA Melissa that's right jamie dimon dishing out negative comments on the cryptocurrency a tower delivering Alpha Conference prompting a heated debate on bitcoins future governments the first thing they do is form a currency they like to control the currency they control through a central bank they also like to know who has it where it is where it's going it's right now they look at as a novelty you know they love in in Washington biologist technology we love technology wait until someone gets hurt wait until it's used for illicit purposes which is somewhat useful there's purposes they close it down Dimon also point to regulatory pushback from China which by the way has had a dramatic impact on Bitcoin trading in January China made up over 90% of all Bitcoin transactions now it's down to about 8.5% that according to crypto compare Bitcoin has also got bashed by PIMCO's Mohamed el-erian who said the currency should be valued at half what it's worth today and double capitals double on capitals Jeffrey Gunlock told clients yesterday that he's not a fan but there are plenty of believers thomas lee a fun strat for one his target six thousand by middle of 2018 but despite the monster run this year bitcoin is trading about 20% off its highs other crypto currencies have tumbled in recent weeks ether has dropped around 25% digital cash is down about 30% and guys by the way Dimon said he fired any traders at his firm who were trading Bitcoin yeah because they were stupid sima Thank You Seema Modi our next guest doesn't believe that bitcoin is a bubble in fact he says the cryptocurrency could soar to get this five hundred thousand dollars in three years be always controversial John McAfee joins us now John great to speak with you great to speak with you thanks for having me on how do you how do you get to five hundred thousand dollars in three years well let's not worry about that let's let's worry about people falling above going online on that yes I do people are calling Bitcoin a bubble that's bursting they keep in mind that two months ago bitcoins to $2,900 and people were saying it's never going to hit three well he hit four and it hit five if you look at the long-term trend of Bitcoin it has been consistently up I mean who cares that it dropped a thousand dollars from 5,000 after it went from the 2900 to 5,000 in two months it's still ahead from what it was two months ago you know I might my company is one of the largest miners in America and one of the nice thing about mining is it doesn't matter what the price of Bitcoin is we still make money as the price goes down there are fewer competitors for mining and the the difficulty rate decreases and we simply mined more coins so I know as well as anybody what the price of Bitcoin is and it is consistently increasing I understand the bubbles burst I'll go ahead you know Jamie Dimon was very clear yesterday that he's a big fan of the blockchain technology and most people actually who who even you know it's called Bitcoin overvalued or what have you they are believers as well in the blockchain technology these are two separate issues so why is that Bitcoin necessarily has to rise to these Heights because you're a believer in blockchain as you do as you both I don't think I don't think the the that the Bitcoin rise has anything to do with the belief in the blockchain okay simply has to do with the belief in in crypto currencies I mean once you start using crypto currencies whether this Bitcoin or more narrow or light coin it doesn't really matter you see the facility you see the ease-of-use you see that without a central bank control the value of that currency depends upon the users of that currency and why is Bitcoin growing so fast because it's getting more users more people are believing if I do a transaction of the credit card I have to put in my name my address my credit card number the code on the back my billing address well that takes five or ten minutes for especially for someone my age but with Bitcoin it's 15 seconds to give me wallet address here's the amount once you see the facility of cryptocurrencies once you see how fast they are transacted then suddenly fiat currencies credit cards maybe it's too easy though John I mean how do you I'm sure the government would like to track where this bitcoin is going they would love to tax people on this and so if you use Bitcoin you may not have that sort of paper trail so to speak to where people are making revenues or or earning money so are you concerned that government intervention in some way could actually slow this down well it can't slow it down but there will be government intervention why because as people start using more and more crypto currencies things like Manero which cannot be tracked at all when they start using these things suddenly governments are gonna start losing income tax revenues and they're going to panic and they're gonna say this is against the law but how do you stop something that cannot be stopped I mean this is not something unique to America where you can just shut it down I mean I can use the tor browser or the onion browser and access Bitcoin wallets all over the world and no one will ever know the government does not have enough enforcement personnel to ever stop Bitcoin Manero litecoin and all of the others so they're gonna have to face reality find some other way to raise revenues this is a fact so John I got asked because most people know you as a cybersecurity pioneer they know the firm that is named after you in between that time and now you had a very interesting life and actually some reports say that you know it was it's the insane life of John McAfee that you once lived in Belize which is true allegedly got caught up with drugs and other illegal activities Bitcoin has a bad rap of being used in the underground that's why people want to use it because they want to conceal nefarious activity do you see that potential do you are you concerned about that as attracting government regulation no not at all I mean I'm still a security specialist and I keep track of the dark rebbe Bitcoin is very seldom used any more on the dark web it has been replaced by narrow as the currency of choice because monaro is absolutely anonymous cannot be tracked either sender or receiver of any transaction they're literally invisible so it's not Bitcoin itself but crypto currencies as a general group of things that are being used on the dark web and that will always be the case Bitcoin used to be the one because that was the only one available but not anymore so so Bitcoin is sort of out of the dark web and into the light and then 99.99% of its use is legitimate so you know John I don't know if you know about this but you know Jamie Dimon watches the show pretty frequently he's probably listening to you right now when do you have any words for him as to why he he's got it wrong I mean would you want to place that same bet that you made on the Internet no I would like to say this mr.
diamond I respect you sir for your position you know people who rise to your position are not idiots however sir what is you you called Bitcoin a fraud I'm a Bitcoin miner we create the bitcoins it costs over $1,000 per coin to create a Bitcoin what does it cost to create a US dollar which one is the fraud because it costs whatever the paper costs but it costs me and other miners over a thousand dollars per coin is called proof of work we have put massive amounts of of supercomputer computing power and electricity and creating these coins surely there's some value in that work that we did to create the coin and the fact that bitcoin is consistently growing in its use and in its in its value has to say something you know sure it will rise and fall and it is highly volatile as all new technologies are right and at the same time it is certainly not a fraud so you're pretty sure that you're not gonna lose this bet that you have on Twitter no I don't ever lose bets alright then john mcafee great to speak with you thank you all right thank you Karen yes well I'm 500,000 that would be fantastic for any Bitcoin owner which I am you know I believe in the Bitcoin story I I don't know I believe in a cryptocurrency story Bitcoin is at the moment the most likely winner but I think we have not seen I don't think last month was the peak of market cap for cryptocurrencies yeah yeah I think the most important takeaway and I thought that was a really really good argument was the network effects of the currencies and the more people are using it's the tougher it is going to be for governments to shut it down and that's the most important use case I believe for actually transacting and the network growth he never loses a bet he says well let's hope for his sake that he does that is on the Internet all right still ahead
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